Francken played a key role in the development of the genre of the singerie, i.e. comical paintings of monkeys in human activities and attire, often to highlight the folly of humanity. The French-language word 'singerie' means a 'comical grimace, behavior or trick'. Comical scenes with monkeys appearing in human attire and a human environment are a pictorial genre that was initiated in Flemish painting in the 16th century and was subsequently further developed in the 17th century.

Monkeys playing Backgammon by Frans Francken the Younger

Hope he hated it.

Very nice colors and a fantastic subject.

Is there a more beautiful machine than a sailing ship?

I do think that those types of conversations are useful, but only to someone who is doxastically prepared to change due to the aforementioned community reasons.

I think we're mostly in agreement though and we're just using different terms, so thanks for sharing your perspective. If you're interested, I read a great book a while ago called How Minds Change that digs into it a bit more.

I don't really think most people form their beliefs based on what is logically true; they get their cues from the group who makes them feel a sense of community.

Deviation from this accepted morality carries the risk of being ostracized, and acts as a control mechanism to keep people in line.

The real issue, in my opinion, is that people are getting their moral cues from an amoral media who wants to enrage them for profit and then the reactionaries carry that back to their communities to feed it into their echo chambers.

Therefore, I don't really think facts will change people's politics; that will not happen until their reactionary community either is no longer useful to them or they find something more worthwhile outside of it. I respectfully reject that there is a fundamentally different strategy for "true believers" and "the fooled;" I'd say both populations are mostly the same (except for the politicians, who know exactly what the game is).

I sympathize with the desire to know, but I think it really doesn't matter.

To quote Vonnegut, "We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be."

It's actually illegal to cut those off.

Yarr, they'll never catch me alive!

They asked random people on the Internet for dosage advice when there is professional advice available for free.

Why not use informed free advice instead of dubious free advice? How is that responsible?

Tuckercarlsyndrome

This is a question for your pharmacist; they should be happy to help if you give them a call.

Not trying to be rude, but it's a bad idea to take medical advice from people on the Internet.

Well, where else are they going to find such a pure node of authoritarian-minded reactionary resentment? It's not like they can just go to the local Klan meeting anymore.

Ooh, the most fun size!

There is a whole cottage industry for selling reactionary apologetics to people who want to pretend that they're not fascists.

Oh, there's just some fun games on the Wii that are impossible to play elsewhere, like Boom Blox or Excite Truck.

Is that a wiimote? Good for you.

Pound by Mr. Mime.

They really triggered that cop's aggression by not complying. There's not a single word that pisses off a small-minded authoritarian more than "no."

Exactly. How can he claim to be shocked when the dissent told him why he's a monster? Dude is a liar.