Sunday SOTD Thread - October 20th, 2024 (#497)
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    HomeAwayFromHone
    1d ago 100%

    Aha! I knew it! I had this trepidation when I sold this one https://pixelfed.social/i/web/post/748289303255129698 especially because they also took this very similar one https://pixelfed.social/i/web/post/748289996039802817 ...and I guess it's probably for the best I abandon the foolish notions I had when I listed this https://imgur.com/a/mardor-z12y8cw and it was especially foolhardy to have ever considered parting with https://imgur.com/a/chassaigne-k0Fy4tt 🤔

    But it's also satisfying to set a new bevel, just not the same if it was already shaving fine (not to mention wasteful). And honing as a service seems less relaxing for myriad reasons. So compromises must be made. Thankfully(?) I've slowed a fair bit since the initial burst when I was getting into it, settling into a bit of an equilibrium with a handful in and out each year.

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  • Sunday SOTD Thread - October 20th, 2024 (#497)
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    HomeAwayFromHone
    2d ago 100%

    My honing enthusiasm provided too much rationalisation for razor acquisition and so I have ...several. The winnowing process is ongoing and I'm proud to have sold 5 x 5/8 last week.

    6/8 is harder because I like them more. Lately I'm wondering: Do I really need two 6/8 hollow-but-stiff round point French blades?

    I'm partial to the Grelot. I do appreciate that it's a bit more hollow and as a Canadian I enjoy the etch. Plus it's my only nice Grelot and there's some cachet there. And it's in better shape. But there's just something to the TI and it's similarly my best TI and the pitting isn't anywhere important so just sorta adds character. And it's more towards a quarter hollow so ...sort of a different thing altogether?

    Inconclusive. More study required. Luckily they don't take a lot of space.

    Also: I'm always curious to see the grind toe-on every time I see a picture of a straight razor and that shot should somehow always be included in the metadata or something :)

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  • Looking for info about strops
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    6d ago 100%

    Two other strop makers that seem well regarded and I keep almost buying from are Tony Miller https://heirloomrazorstrop.com/ and Torolf Myklebust https://www.scrupleworks.com/

    I find the linen component useful for cleaning up a fresh edge and that actual linen seems to work better for this (and my experience mirrors others that it's particularly noticeable with coticule edges). An acquaintance with a bit of leatherworking skill fashioned me one from some webbing I found on etsy from a link at B&B: https://www.etsy.com/ca/listing/780497457/linen-tape-by-yard-7cm-wide-tape?ref=yr_purchases

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  • Looking for info about strops
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    6d ago 100%

    Ha, my first strop made it through unscathed. My first nick was on my second strop once I'd had it a while and gotten complacent. Complacency is what really kills strops so I look at it as meditation and try to be present with it, and indeed whenever I'm waving a fragile and very sharp edge around.

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  • Looking for info about strops
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    6d ago 100%

    I prefer a 2.5" strop. You should be doing a lightly rolling X stroke anyway to ensure good contact and many straight razors aren't quite straight so it's useful to be able to hang the tip off a bit if it's subtly bent. Plus on my 3" strop it sorta bothers me that there's this whole area on the toe side not getting any wear. Maybe if it was a reversible design so I could rotate it as I go...

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  • The hard life of a razor grinder
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    HomeAwayFromHone
    1w ago 100%

    @walden@sub.wetshaving.social had a good guess with the metal dust. Maybe lead if they're making wedges there as well or who knows what randomly toxic stuff they were using at that point to dress the leather in stropping wheels and whatever other process they had. Seems lung related somehow though since fans made the difference. I did actually try searching archive.org for that "Fourth Report of the Children’s Employment Commission" back before it got hacked but wasn't able to find anything.

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  • The hard life of a razor grinder
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    2w ago 100%

    I would be sad as I enjoy this little corner of the server. If you look at the front of this sub it's a well curated (ha I'm biased) collection of interesting tidbits on this topic of some fascination to me and I feel like I'm building on something when I post to it. Whereas if I put it on the main page it's there for a bit then it vanished into the sea of daily and misc threads. And I also find it gratifying that at least a couple of others have gotten the spirit of it and posted things that fit right in.

    Doesn't bother me at all that it operates on a scale of weeks and months and this feels more fun than a blog though I suppose it's verging on one. I think it's fairly discoverable too because you'll see these posts when you're viewing the local feed and most who are interested in the sort of thing that's here will have subscribed. This checks out since the main sub has 11 users/day, 36/week and yet this post from 7 hours ago already has 10 points.

    So I don't know about varied subs in general but I feel attached to this one.

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  • I was researching some razors to put up for sale and was reminded of a sad story I saw on James Bingham's [Hawley entry](https://hawleysheffieldknives.com/n-fulldetails.php?val=bingham&kel=2523): >He was interviewed by a government commission on child labour, when he stated that when he was ‘first in the trade the average age of razor grinders at death was 34’. He said that exhaust fans had improved matters, so that ‘we have some men of good age. The effect of the work depends very much on the temperance of the workers’ ...we really don't fully appreciate the labour standards we have, wow.

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    [Mail Call] Ed Wüsthof 220 Barber's King
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    5mo ago 100%

    This seems like a really nice size, good compromise between heft/lather handling and agility. Plus I like the jimping on it. Somehow I suspect you'll hang on to this one.

    And ya, wow, did you stumble onto a hidden cache of underappreciated and underpriced blades or did you set out to expand your collection like this?

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  • The other new arrival: a Christy razor
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    HomeAwayFromHone
    6mo ago 100%

    I often see people wedging injector blades into things eg. Ender's, Ronson, etc. but haven't given it enough thought to guess if there's a reasonable way to do that here.

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  • Any durable double edged razors at the sub £50 mark?
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    HomeAwayFromHone
    7mo ago 100%

    You might also consider vintage razors, a lot of them are brass and they've stood the test of time to get this far.

    Alternatively, if what you really want is machined stainless you can probably get it for that price from dscosmetic or yaqi on AliExpress. They have many models so it'd be worth searching out some reviews.

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  • Weekend Off-topic thread
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    HomeAwayFromHone
    9mo ago 100%

    I'm unsurprised to see an overlap between meditation and straight razor appreciation. After all, using, honing and stropping my straights are some of my favourite meditations though I still try to keep a more formal practice.

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  • Mailcall
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    11mo ago 100%

    There are also thick framebacks but they're basically just like a light wedge so I think you're right to prioritise the Japanese ones.

    I like the look of tapered blades and was lucky enough to score one but it's been at my brother's place waiting for scales for a while now. One day.

    Rattlers are neat but also basically feel like a light wedge however I have this one smaller one I quite like, took a nice edge, slight smile, etc. sometimes a razor just fits.

    "Lancet" is what Mappin called these, but there have been a few imitators and while I've not tried one quite like that though I have this one with a hollowed out spine that maybe is at least in the same sort of category? Heh, actually that mailcall is pretty topical overall, even has a lather catcher.

    Yes, but I have 100 FHS-10 blades and no other razor to use them in😅

    Good call on the Audiostrop then, much more appealing than the Oneblade (which I never really felt drawn to in any way) and I liked the noisy feedback from it though I did move mine along as I could get a similar effect from the Wilkinson.

    Edit: closing a stray image search tab I spotted this link to an especially nice lancet-ish razor.

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  • Mailcall
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    HomeAwayFromHone
    11mo ago 100%

    For frameback be sure to try one of the thin Japanese ones, they're almost like a stiff hollow and kind of sing. Hm, others... have you tried a lancet blade? Sheffield with a rattler grind? With a taper? Oh! What about the Wilkinson Pall Mall / Dunhill? It takes (quarter hollow) wedge blades but can use Gem too. Not only does it have a roller guard but you can adjust the exposure. Neat thing.

    Speaking of Gem blades, you know you can pull the spine off a Gem and use it in that Autostrop right?

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  • Wednesday SOTD Thread - November 01, 2023
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    HomeAwayFromHone
    12mo ago 100%

    Does your 472 have the decorated spine like the worn one I picked up early in my exploration of straights and still keep with the edge it came with as one of my references? https://imgur.com/a/QJX47Yg

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  • How hordes grown – or how I learned to love Acquisition Disorder
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    12mo ago 100%

    Thanks for sharing! I must admit, I was slow to come around to this way of thinking, one soap (Williams), one brush (house brand badger), one razor (Merkur 38c) for years but then I tried a straight razor and that all went out the window so on top of the comprehensive arsenal of straights I have a whole spectrum of soap, various DE new and old (even a few vintage blades), Gem razors, injectors (the twin blades from Japan are amazing), a lather catcher, Rolls, and a Wilkinson Dunhill where I hone the blades (pretty much the same as the Pall Mall). And today I tried this new giant tub of unscented soap I bought for some bizarre reason.

    Very glad for the chill low key hobby, I think my favourite part is the utter lack of urgency, and as a bonus my kitchen knives have never been this well maintained. Plus theoretically I can recoup most of the (not life changing) money if I ever have need of it and the stuff is small, it'd all fit in an unremarkable box so I don't really see any downside.

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  • Thursday SOTD Thread - October 26, 2023
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    12mo ago 100%
    • Razor: Weck Sextoblade
    • Blade: Kismet (2)
    • Brush: Mühle 23mm STF
    • Lather: Canada Shaving Soap
    • Post: Thayers

    My one-pass few-variables shaves continue. Kismet blades are nice, this went better but maybe it was the soap--my Canadian MdC tribute showed up quickly (snagged one of the last two they had at amazon) and wow, the tub was so full it didn't quite close. Needed to add water as I unexpectedly loaded a sizable amount of soap, I think I expected it to load slower being so hard. Very slick, and very unscented unlike MWF which I find stronger than I expected (though unobjectionable).

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  • Thursday SOTD Thread - October 26, 2023
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    12mo ago 100%

    I think I saw someone complaining that the B-20 has rounded corners and barely hits the posts on their injector so it might be perfect for a shavette.

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  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCv5u9-Q-E8

    I was chatting with someone about Ern razors and mentioned seeing that he'd invented a better way to do hollow grinds. Found [the link](http://strazors.com/index.php?id=171&doc=carl_friedrich_ern_solingen_wald_) I remembered (Carl Friedrich Ern & family introduced the "Hexe" machine in 1893) but learned something new when I thought to look for one on Youtube: a current artisan ([Ertan Süer](https://rasoir-sabre.com/en/192-ertan-suer-straight-razors)) has acquired such a machine and is using it for some of his current production.

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    https://archive.org/details/standardizertext0000unse/page/19/mode/1up?q=honing

    A lot of the books on straight razors are well out of copyright. However, copyright does go back an absurdly long way and covers even the 1950s when they were still in relatively common use. The Internet Archive lends use of books based on how many they physically have in some warehousing arrangement and so you can borrow this one by the hour. This seems like it was is in common use training barbers (and may still be -- there seems to be an edition still in print) and being towards the tail end of when straights were prevalent offers a different perspective from the older works.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUN7NLf03rQ

    Ran into this by chance, pretty interesting: I was a little surprised both by the circles and the 1:1 ratio between omote/ura. Also interesting is how he uses a diamond pasted strop seemingly not to refine the edge but more just to deburr it.

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    I think two straights is quite justifiable, you might use up an edge and need to shave before you have time to hone. And two identical ones is a good way to compare hones--same razor, different edge. I have a pair I use like that. More? Well, you'll find there is quite a big difference in how a wedge shaves from how a hollow shaves. And there are many grinds in between. Plus there are framebacks! Some framebacks are thin like a hollow but don't quite have the same flex, others shave pretty much like a wedge. Not to mention interestingly shaped tapered blades, lancets, monkey tails... And maybe you have a 6/8 and wonder how an 4/8 or 8/8+ width would be? They're certainly going to be different and it's very subjective which is better! But then maybe you like a wide hollow and a narrow wedge? The reverse? Only one way to tell... Perhaps you wonder how American, English, French, Swedish, German and Japanese razors differ? I sure did... Maybe you were curious what they were like in the 1920s vs. the 1960s. Or the 1800s. Or the 1700s. Or you'd like scales made from bone or ivory or tortoise or mother-of-pearl? Or something cool etched on the blade? Or a modern custom from Koraat or HG or Artrazor or Gipson or Ali's Blade or any of hundreds of worthy artisans keeping this craft going? I've always been a minimalist. I've never felt the appeal of collecting anything. It started out as trying to find which one works best for me so I could get a really good one of those, but I kinda liked them all. I ...think I collect straight razors now? It just sorta happened 🤷‍♂️

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    With the Lemmy instance seeming like it's perhaps getting more uptake than Mastodon is there a chance that if that continues it might one day become the top level `wetshaving.social` or is it doomed to always be `sub.wetshaving.social` 'cause it's perhaps really fiddly to change domains around once entrenched?

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    So, typically, I try to hone through any pitting to get a clean edge. I might tolerate some on the bevel, but not right near the edge where the stresses of shaving and stropping might cause it to collapse and break that nice clean line. However... I have this one razor. I used it today. I quite like it: it has very little wear and was well ground so it has a very thin bevel. It shaves well and it holds an edge. Indeed, it's one of the few edges I've put a dozen shaves on. But I have a confession: I left a tiny pit at the edge. Because there was probably going to be another and another and... well, usually I'd just take some metal off until we were in reasonable steel. I didn't want to this time, so I left all this (which you can only see at all on one side): ![](https://lemm.ee/api/v3/image_proxy?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsub.wetshaving.social%2Fpictrs%2Fimage%2Fff3c9c72-87a9-4f3c-a1fe-8a5aeac59726.jpeg) ...and while I had a mostly clean edge, it did have a small pit _at the edge_. But nothing major, it's not a serrated knife or anything. So I went with it to see what happened. Every shave I made a point to see if the heel was giving me more irritation than elsewhere on the blade or anything like that and ...nah. It's fine. Which reminded me of this [post at Science of Sharp](https://scienceofsharp.com/2015/03/24/sharp-and-keen-part-2/) where you can see, based on the scale, how very much bigger a hair is than a razor edge. And I think my skin is at least as thick as a hair or I'd be bleeding way more often. A quick search confirms even the thinnest skin (eyelids apparently) has [something like 50 microns](https://www.training.seer.cancer.gov/melanoma/anatomy/layers.html) of epidermis. So maybe I shouldn't be so surprised that I can't notice a difference from some tiny pit on the edge? Maybe I should more often err on the side of leaving steel on a nice blade even if it's not so great?

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